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Special Notice: The Tuesday evening shoots are complete, you can review the results on the 2016 Shoot Results Page. Thanks to everone who participated and we hope you will return next season.
Note:until furthur notice there will be meetings every month.
Meeting Dates for 2016; All meeting are the third Tuesday of the month.
August, 16th NOTE CHANGE
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20 September 2016, White Sulphur Springs -Quarterly Meeting
September 20, 2016 7:00 PM
Meeting called to order by Vice President, Dan Rader. Vice President Rader led all in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present: Bill Cummins, Rosalie Greener, Mike Greener, Pat McCoy, Gary Smith, Robert Porter, Chuck Stricker, Mike Vennard, Dan Rader, Joanne Cummins, Ronald Coleman, Don Babcock, Jess Secrest, Tim McCann and Jake Lind.
Minutes of the August meeting were read and approved. Moved by Pat McCoy, and seconded by Mike Greener.
Treasurer's report was presented with distribution of a spread sheet of income and expenses and report of Checking Balance of $3,638.62 in the operating account, and $2,747.36 in the construction account. Railroad ties have been purchased from the funds in the construction account and placed for the beginning of the target project.
Committee Reports: Long Range Committee. Jess Secrest reported on the long range shooting. He had done more studying and the longest target we could set up would be 960 yards without having shots go over the hill. Jess will work more on the 900 yard distance.
Membership: total members are at 129.
Regarding grant received from FWP for the target butts, we need to get a group together to work on them and the plan is for possibly September 25 when Jess Secrest is available and Ron Coleman to use a tractor and work on the closer targets. The longer ones on hills will wait until November when Tim Allen's equipment is available.
Regarding discussion of trying to find a new insurance company for the club, Mike and Joanne did some research. Based on membership this date, NRA price would be $1104.73, (approximately $10 for each additional member). Current policy is $1,624 (expires in October). Since we need to insure the buildings for wind, hail, or fire because it could be a loss we could not recover from, bids were received from eight other companies and a few more are yet to come. Previous bids are liability only. Mike Vennard reported on the research and two looking the best were Philadelpia (Outdoor Ins) and Markel. It was decided to continue research and make the decision at the October 18 meeting since the old policy expires at the end of November.
Public sight-in day was set for October 2nd. Time will be 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Bring weed eaters to do a little clean-up while waiting for some shooters to come.
September is when Jr. Marksmen commences for the season. Dan Rader and Pat McCoy will put an ad in the paper and get it going again, on Thursday evenings. Discussion to put on Meagher County Classifieds to reach young people. At present time there does not seem to be much interest due to school activities conflicts. Students should be 12 and up, but would accept 10 or 11 year olds with a "b" level grades in school if more mature and better able to concentrate.
Mike Greener has worked up a very informative plan for a Shot Gun Range with various options and costs for each. Due to concern of coming up with our initial investment and question if we could go smaller scale, Mike ran an article in the newspaper and put on Meagher County Classifieds. 46 people responded as interested in having a shot gun range and many were women. Some from Townsend also responded. The question still remains if there are people who are will be available to do the building. Grant deadline for 2017 grants is Nov. 2. Part of the application process is letters from 3 groups to support the need which could be difficult to find in this short of time. Mike Greener moved and Ron Coleman seconded to do more research and apply the following year. Motion passed. Mike also indicated there is equipment available which would be used from other clubs upgrading that could cut the cost quite a bit.
In regard to the discussion of MCSA's Board of Directors will designate one Board Member, who is not the Secretary-Treasurer, to review the previous year's finances and proposed projects for the up-coming fiscal year, and produce an annual budget to be approved by the Board and administered by Secretary-Treasurer. This position will be served for two (2) years. No one was responding to create a budget, but Mike Greener indicated he was very familiar with creating budgets, so he volunteered to work on one by the October meeting.
Pat questioned a wood plaque to list Junior Shooters with enough plates to cover about 18 years. Engraving each year would cost about $5. Pat found another provider for a plaque which ran about $144. Mike Vennard moved to purchase that one and Ron Seconded. He will try to get some donations from members to cover most of the cost.
RE: Dues increase necessary to pay for insurance and other rising expenses. Discussion of amounts changing to $35 for single and $50 for families or $40 for singles and $60 for families. There was some opposition that those on fixed incomes could not afford it and we would lose members. Most other clubs, even those with lesser facilities, are charging a lot more. Some suggested discounts after paid for the following year if that member showed up for work parties and contributed to the club. It was moved by Mike Vennard and seconded by Ron Coleman to wait on the cost decision until after the budget is complete and decide at the October 18 meeting. Some suggested doing a fund raiser to raise money for the club, such as turkey shoots, wild game dinners, gun shows, car shows, bake sales, and gun raffles.
Move for adjournment by Mike Greener and seconded by Mike Vennard.
12 September 2016, White Sulphur Springs -Target Safety Backstops - Outdoor Range.
The acquisition of 8 bundles of Rail Road ties to use in construction of the target butts to provide more safety by preventing dangerous ricochets out in the main range. Several members of the Association membership, under the direction of Jess Seacrest. The ties were procured from Checkerboard Cattle Company and delivered to the range where Bob Rooney loaned and drove the forklift to unload the ties to the proper locations.
Notice the tie balancing on top of the bundle.
16 August 2016, White Sulphur Springs -Quarterly Meeting
August 16, 2016 7:00 PM
Meeting called to order by President, Rod Browning. President Browning led all in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present: Bill Cummins, Rosalie Greener, Mike Greener, Pat McCoy, Gary Smith, Robert Porter, Richard Arnold, Mike Vennard, Rodney Browning, Joanne Cummins and Dan Rader.
Minutes of the April meeting were read and approved with a correction. Moved by Mike Vennard, and seconded by Pat McCoy.
Treasurer's report was presented with distribution of a spread sheet of income and expenses and report of Checking Balance of $3,703.14 in the operating account, and $3.547.26 in the construction account. Shooting matches brought in $261. Report was accepted with motion by Mike Vennard and 2nd by Mike Greener.
Committee Reports: Long Range Committee. No one from committee present to report,
With one new membership tonight we have a total of 122 paid members for 2016.
Shooting Matches: Matches were held and enjoyed by all who attended. Total proceeds from the .22 matches raised $261 for the club. Dan Rader also had a 50 Shot high power scheutzen match on May 21, bringing in $25.00
Grant was received from FWP for the target butts. We need to get a group together to work on them and the plan is for a weekend in September when Tim Allen and Jess Secrest are available with Tim's equipment for moving ties and the installation.
Discussion of trying to find a new insurance company for the club. Joanne did some research. Based on membership this date, NRA price would be $1104.73, (approximately $10 for each additional member). Current policy is $1,624 (expires in October). Another application for Gillingham & Associates but cost is unknown until submitted. Some feel we need to insure the buildings for wind, hail, or fire because it could be a loss we could not recover from. Previous bids are liability only. Suggestions were made to contact Gun Owners of America, Rick Davis at the Helena range, Montana Rifle and Pistol Association web page, or Weapons collectors Association of MT. Mike Vennard made a motion to tentatively use NRA if we cannot find a less expensive insurance quote by September 15. Bill seconded and all were in favor.
Public sight-in day was set for October 2nd. Motion made by Mike Vennard and seconded by Gary Smith to hold then.
September is when Jr. Marksmen commences for the season. Dan Rader and Pat McCoy will put an ad in the paper and get it going again, on Thursday evenings.
Mike Greener has worked up a very informative plan for a Shot Gun Range with various options and costs for each. He explained his handouts. There was concern of coming up with our initial investment and question if we could go smaller scale. Townsend is the closest to us. Mike will put together an article for the newspaper to inquire how much interest there is for one.
Mike Vennard introduced the Mini Quigley. Some targets have been made of heavy steel and would be shot with .22 caliber rifles up to 160 yards and the closest range at 70 yards. Cross sticks would be used for gun supports. Matches would be 30 shots. Next summer would most likely be the first match.
Mike Vennard also introduced a Budget By-Law. He explained that when we initially started the organization, the grant provided us with extra funds that were split between the operating and construction accounts. Over the years that has been spent down to around $3000 each. We need to do an annual budget and work to make our expenses stay under our income. Mike Moved to put a new by-law in place and Tim McCann seconded the motion.
By-Law would read as follows:
The MCSA will create an annual budget for all the finances and projects of the Association. The budget will be prepared and submitted for approval to the board and presented to the membership the general meeting before the fiscal year in December.
The MCSA's Board of Directors will designate one Board Member, who is not the Secretary-Treasurer, to review the previous year's finances and proposed projects for the up-coming fiscal year, and produce an annual budget to be approved by the Board and administered by Secretary-Treasurer. This position will be served for two (2) years.
Other Topics to discuss:
Changes are coming from NRA and probably FWP for grant requests. They expect use from other entities if they grant funds, as well as IRS making restrictions. It was noted the FWP brought in a group of staff for a long training this spring and the Sheriff's Office uses it twice a year. They also indicated we may have to allow anyone who can purchase a license to hunt to join.
Permission was granted to purchase 500 sheutzen targets for a total cost of $50
Next meeting we will discuss a dues increase in order to have income outweigh expenses. May need to look at a fundraiser of some time as well.
Suggested to increase number of meetings per year. It was switched to 4 per year when no one came to meetings, but to get a better handle on budgets, etc. we will meet again on September 20, October 18, November 15, and December 20. Joanne will send an email for new schedule to members.
Pat questioned a wood plaque to list Junior Shooters with enough plates to cover about 18 years. Engraving each year would cost about $5. No decision was made.
Move for adjournment by Mike Vennard and seconded by Mike Greener at 8:45 p.m.
7 June 2016, White Sulphur Springs - Clean up
Annual cleanup, which without the help might have become semi-annual clean up.A big thank you to all those who came out to lend a hand. Bill and Joanne Cummins, Jerry Churchill, Pat McCoy, Don and Donna Babcock, Mike and Rosy Greener, Ed Celander, Don Rassmusen, Dan Rader, Bob Porter, Jess Seacrest, Ron Hamm, Mike Vennard, Gary Smith, and Tim Allen's backhoe. Things were cut, moved, removed, thrown away, burned, checked, and replaced. Two new “gong” type targets were installed out on the far hills, a concrete slab was placed at the east end of the building and a clay pigeon thrower was permanently installed. The storage shed was emptied, shelves installed and stuff to be sorted re - warehoused. The interior target wall was inspected and found to be in decent condition. The use of conveyor belting was a good choice as it is holding up well to large amounts of bullet penetration. Floors swept, Small piles of “left overs“ from earlier construction were consolidated into useable and disposal. At the finish of all the efforts to put things right, a barbecue of burgers, potato salad, beans, chips and drinks was shared by the crew. Again a big thank you to all who came to help. ACTIVITY PHOTOS BELOW:
17 April 2016, White Sulphur Springs - NRA Concealed Carry Class
The 2016 class is completed for this year, with a field day at the range as students brought their own weapons to defend the range from the annual attack of the plastic water filled bottles. We are glad to report that the onslaught was superbly repelled with the complete destruction of all bottles.
April 19, 2016 7:00 PM
Meeting called to order by President, Rod Browning. President Browning led all in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present: Rodney Browning, Mike Vennard, Bob Porter, Rosie Greener, Mike Greener, Gary Smith, Chuck Stricker, Bill Cummins, Ron Coleman, Pat McCoy, Don Babcock, Jim Berghorn, Mark Tome, Jay Kolbe, Marvin Kostelecky, Tim Allen and Joanne Cummins.
Minutes of prior meeting were left at home, so will be covered at the August meeting.
Treasurer's report was presented with distribution of a spread sheet of income and expenses and report of Checking Balance of $3,568.05 in the operating account, and $3.686.35 in the building account. Deposits received of $171.60 and bills paid of $15.96. Report was accepted with motion by Mike Vennard and 2nd by Ron Coleman. Personal Protection class brought in $704.00 and Jr. Shooters paid for ammo of $22.00. Students attended a shoot in Big Timber and did personal best. Both fairly new shooters. Looking like NRA will change PP class format, so motion by Ron Coleman and second by Mike Vennard to purchase another set of class books for next year at cost of $12. Motion to order a plaque for Junior shooters names to hang at the clubhouse by Mike Vennard and second by Ron Coleman.
Correspondence: Letter from NRA recruiting team regarding changes in cost and new materials for us to use when recruiting members. 1 year now $30; 3 years $85, 5 years $100, and Life $1000. Received a rebate check of $12.
Committee Reports: Long Range Committee. No one from committee present to report, but Joanne indicated we are approved, with submission of another document they needed. Funds to come for $2300 grant.
With two renewal membership tonight we have a total of 84paid members for 2016.
Guncraft Training Academy has lost their lease so will be moving to Houston, TX. Probably no classes this summer, but Tim Allen is trying to get something going to keep the interest.
Shooting Matches: Beginning June 7, Tuesday nights, at 6:30, there will be 10 weeks organized by Bob Porter and Gary Smith. First 5 weeks at 50 Yds and 2nd 5 weeks at $100 Yds. Open to the public. Can be .17 cal or .22 cal as long as rim fire. Classes of open sights and also scoped. All from bench. Need to order more eye protection and Pat McCoy wants to be involved in what to order so works indoors and outside. Will advertise on Meagher Co. Classifieds, newspaper and posters in businesses. $3 for adults and $1 for under 16 years of age. Need 40 rounds of ammo. Dan Rader will also have a 50 Shot high power match on May 21.
Need to purchase two more camera boxes, so we can move the cameras to the clubhouse when cattle are in. Only getting cattle pictures now. Motion by Mike Greener and 2nd by Mike Vennard to purchase.
New Business: Discussion of lighting with LED's instead of florescent lighting. Home depot indicated they are not carrying the very long replacement bulbs for florescent as LED's are becoming the thing. A long discussion was held regarding spending $400 for a case of 40 tubes or changing some out now to the LED's. More research to be done to help with the decision. The LED replacement is about $34 for a 4' replacement and much brighter. Will discuss again at the August meeting.
Joanne questioned a different form for the Sheriff's Office for those doing daily use. She will research further or create a simple short form that they can complete and be given to us. Maybe a copy of the sheet signed now could be used.
Summer clean up day was set for June 4th at 8:00 a.m. Maybe have a barbecue for club members that day to get a bigger work party, as we need to work on inside range, weeds all around, storage container and maybe build more cardboard targets.
No open house this year as turnout was low. Consider doing with fall sight in day.
Indoor Pistol Range for larger bore. Rod Browning has had lots of people wanting to make changes inside to shoot larger calibers during the winter months. There is a company who will provide an estimate and has materials to make all changes needed. Unknown what cost would be, but then would need to get a grant for project. It is inquiry stage now, so unknown what may come of it.
Metal Plates: Ron Coleman told us Evelyn Gluhm has iron for sale totaling $875 which can be used to repair targets. Pat McCoy moved and Mike Vennard seconded to purchase the material as it is a good buy.
Jay Kolbe from FWP spoke to us on the shoulder hunt and its future plans. Numbers are not in yet from surveys, but he indicated the elk count had been climbing by 15 percent which is the reason the hunt was held. There will be a similar one next fall, but another district was formed from East end of the Castles. His phone alone logged 20 thousand calls and 3000 through the Forest Service. The late hunts are conditional on whether 1/2 of cows are killed during regular season. If land is not accessible to allow the number required during regular season, the hunts will not continue. Very dependent of cooperation of the land owners. Surveys call about 90,000 people. Next year will have 43 districts of shoulder season. An extra 40,000 acres of block management helped this year. Will open Aug 15 to Sept 2nd, stop during archery season, open dead week between archery and rifle season, close during rifle season and open as soon as general season ends until Feb. 15. It will be reviewed annually and have comment periods. These hunts are only on non-forest service land. Still need to determine the proof of damage to elk calving for this long period.
Email today from Montana State Shooting Sports Assoc. to support Ryan Osmundson on election issues as he supports shooters.
Move for adjournment by Bill Cummins and seconded by Mike Vennard at 8:25 p.m.
19 January 2016, White Sulphur Springs - Quarterly Meeting
January 19, 2016 7:00 PM
Meeting called to order by President, Rod Browning. President Browning led all in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Present: Rodney Browning, Mike Vennard, Jess Secrest, Bob Thompson, Daryl Mesecher, Ron Hamm, Bob Porter, Rosie Greener, Mike Greener, Gary Smith, Scott Jackson, Chuck Stricker, Bill Cummins, Ron Coleman, Pat McCoy and Joanne Cummins.
Minutes of prior meeting were read, and approved with motion by Mike Vennard and second by Ron Coleman.
Treasurer's report was presented with distribution of a spread sheet of income and expenses and report of Checking Balance of $3,339.81 in the operating account, and $3,686.08 in the building account. Report was accepted with motion by Jess Secrest and 2nd by Mike Vennard.
Correspondence: Letter from Friends of NRA for the pre-banquet party to be held Feb 11, 2016 at Bozeman Holiday Inn. Joanne phoned them to learn the date of the Banquet is set for March 19th. Discussion was held in regard to purchasing a table as usual (sponsor) which includes 2 tickets for the banquet. It was decided to send an email to the membership to see who is interested in attending as the table seats 8 individuals. The sponsorship only covers two seats at the table. Others will need to purchase their own tickets.
Committee Reports: Long Range Committee. Rod reviewed from the prior meeting that Scott saw the markers for the Long Range and questioned him. He stated that he is inclined to say "NO" because he has a gravel pit in that line. Would not be safe for him or his staff if they were working when someone was shooting. Discussion was held regarding any shooting at the rifle range portion when they are out there. A sign will be constructed to place on the keyed entry gate to the range area that the Jackson's can flip over saying the range is temporarily closed while they are at the pit. Rod Browning will construct the sign. Indoor range and pistol range could be used while they are at the gravel pit. The committee is researching another option for the long range. Possibly moving to the East to move away from the gravel pit. Ron Coleman needs to get a plate of steel to Rod to build the sign with. Discussed being able to see the targets in the area from a prone position.
With eight renewal membership tonight we have a total of 41 paid members for 2016. A discussion was held in regard to a type of membership card for those who like to donate but do not plan to shoot at the club. A certificate of donation will be created for those individuals. It was moved by Mike Vennard and seconded by Ron Coleman to do this.
Old Business: The PPP class is a go for this spring, to be held beginning March 23 for 5 Wednesday evenings beginning at 7 pm to about 9:30 pm with the Saturday finish on April 23rd am. There are several signed up as of now.
Requested volunteers for a work party for about 1 1/2 hours to repair the cable carriers on the indoor range. They need to be tightened. Rod agreed to help with it, so it is tentatively set for one of the next two weeks. He will call Bill Cummins, Pat McCoy, Mike Vennard and Ron Coleman when his time allows for assistance. Two tall ladders will be needed.
New Business: There was some discussion in regard to the New Club Membership applications. Mike explained the need for the change when considering the shooting in Sacramento, CA earlier. Discussion as to how to prevent someone training at our facility and then doing a horrible deed, came down to all members should show some responsibility when they see someone at the range that they do not know and might be concerned about. It was suggested they contact a board member to investigate. All members will complete an application stating that they are not a felon to belong.
Jess Secrest presented a schematic of the target butts for ties in front of the target holders. Railroad ties would be stacked to protect the holders. The cost would be approximately $395 per target and the estimate was for 10 target areas. Pat McCoy will work on a grant request for 2/3 of the amount to the FWP prior to February 6th.
There was an incident of the gate lock missing. A new lock was purchased. A discussion was held about purchasing game cameras to place near the front gate and inside the building. A motion was made by Bob Porter to purchase 2 cameras and signage stating that "Security Cameras are in use" and was seconded by Mike Greener.
It is time to audit the books, so Jess Secrest and Pat McCoy volunteered to review them.
Regarding a 1 year plan for the club, a suggestion was made to form a committee for shooting matches. Gary Smith agreed to be on it, along with Bob Porter. Bob and Gary have agreed to organize some matches, maybe one evening per week and one invitational meet per month when we have warmer weather.
Rebuild shooting frames. Suggested that there is wood in the metal container that can be used along with cardboard. It is okay to do at home and return them.
Suggested putting the plastic water tank on top of the container filled with water for fire suppression.
Clean the metal container inside and build shelving.
Sending a request by email to members to determine interest in a shot gun range.
Still want to adjust outside benches to make them all even.
22 Targets are in need of repair as they have been shot by larger calibers. Need AR metal 1/2 inch plate at about $400 per sheet. Need to replace wood or material on some areas of indoor range.
VOTING FOR OFFICERS :
President: Rod Browning (indicated he would serve another term)
Secretary/Treasurer: Joanne Cummins (indicated she would serve another term)
Mike Venard moved and Ron Coleman seconded for the President and Secretary/Treasurer to remain as the past two years.
Director 1 position currently held by Mike Vennard: Jess Secrest-10, Don Babcock-2 and Mike Vennard (write-in) 1. Election completed and Mike Vennard turned his keys to Jess Secrest.
The motion to adjourn was made by Mike Vennard and seconded by Ron Coleman.